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dbgrman · 2026-10-28T17:29:19.000Z

> Building on Gemini 4 Argon, which was launched two weeks ago, Carbon illustrates the pace at which we’re pushing the frontier forward. Our researchers and models are working hand in hand to advance capabilities faster, while strengthening our safeguards in tandem.

Is it a variant of Argon? A different model? The next version? It seems like this is a separate class (like Anthropic's Mythos).

anyway, its needlessly confusing.

JacobAsmuth · 2026-10-28T17:52:12.000Z

What are you confused about? This model is the same price and speed and token usage per task of Argon but scores better in ~every test.

pantalaimon · 2026-10-28T18:04:37.000Z

So why not call it Argon 4.1?

chapz · 2026-10-28T17:46:56.000Z

I also have no clue based on naming where this fits in, maybe it's their Claude Haiku competitor. Who knows.